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the president flew to michigan where helasted the republican-led state legislature and the republican governor fo their support of righto-work legislation. his timing could hardly have been worse that worker rights leglation will be voted on and gen final approval tomorrow and be sgned into law by govern rick snyder. michigan becomes the 24th state in the nation to ratify a aw that protects workers from being forced to pay union dues a a condition of their employment. we'll be examining tonight what's happening inichigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayer blind." llory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egan military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the ctatorial powers he assumed which have spurre violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that america's time as the lone perpower is nearing an end. former director of national intelligence jo negro panty joins us to talk about our future as a superp
the president flew to michigan where helasted the republican-led state legislature and the republican governor fo their support of righto-work legislation. his timing could hardly have been worse that worker rights leglation will be voted on and gen final approval tomorrow and be sgned into law by govern rick snyder. michigan becomes the 24th state in the nation to ratify a aw that protects workers from being forced to pay union dues a a condition of their employment. we'll be examining tonight...
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we'll be examining tonight what's happening in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the dictatorial powers he assumed which have spurred violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that america's time as the lone superpower is nearing an end. former director of national intelligence john negro panty joins us to talk about our future as a superpower and the challenges that we'll surely face. we begin tonight with one of the few scheduling misadventures of president obama's swire tenure in -- entire tenure in office. the president speaking to autoworkers outside detroit today, a day before governor snyder will sign michigan's newly-passed right-to-work law into effect. the president standing firmly with the unions that worked hard to get him reelected. >> what we shouldn't
we'll be examining tonight what's happening in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the dictatorial powers he assumed which have spurred violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that...
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john in michigan. >> caller: hi, steph. yeah, i get a couple things for president obama in boulder. why don't we go back because ronald reagan is everybody's freakin' hero. >> stephanie: i thought you missed that and i caught it. still clinging to my fcc license. >> barely. okay. >> stephanie: don't scare an old woman like that. back with sexy [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello hour number three. jacki schechner we're having a little girl's night out. i was talking to you yesterday. you were saying i don't leave my house. because -- well, i don't leave my house and i don't like to drive. i found a solution. dog drives man in new zealand. they're training dogs to drive a car. i could get a little chauffeur's cap for max or fred. >> one problem. you don't live in new zealand. >> her dogs are big enough, they probably could drive a car. >> stephanie: they won't drive drunk or text. how bad could it be? >> they might be easily distracted. squirrel! >> stephanie: it's an idea. jacki schechner in the curr
john in michigan. >> caller: hi, steph. yeah, i get a couple things for president obama in boulder. why don't we go back because ronald reagan is everybody's freakin' hero. >> stephanie: i thought you missed that and i caught it. still clinging to my fcc license. >> barely. okay. >> stephanie: don't scare an old woman like that. back with sexy [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello hour number three. jacki schechner we're having a little girl's night out. i was...
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michigan snyder what did he say? snyder did not address as they explained in the slate, did not address the right to work in his presentation but told members of the news media afterwards, it is not on my agenda because it is divisive. then what did he do? he put it on his agenda. the minute he had an opportunity he passed the right to work laws. why? he is a liar. he intended to deceive the public so they would vote for him. that's point number two. it's frustrating that the press doesn't understand that. you see, they have to lie otherwise they can't win because their real purpose is to represent the top 2%, the rich and the powerful that fund their campaigns. if they told you the truth, if snyder and romney said i'm out for the rich, will you vote for me, and i'm only for the rich--they wouldn't get your vote. that's why they have to lie on a mass scale. the press who just doesn't get it. the detroit free press after snyder lying to them and pushed forward the right to work law said this. we also indulge many comp
michigan snyder what did he say? snyder did not address as they explained in the slate, did not address the right to work in his presentation but told members of the news media afterwards, it is not on my agenda because it is divisive. then what did he do? he put it on his agenda. the minute he had an opportunity he passed the right to work laws. why? he is a liar. he intended to deceive the public so they would vote for him. that's point number two. it's frustrating that the press doesn't...
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it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us behind the curtain and explain the relationship of the koch brothers and all of these right-to-work organizations that have been pushing this behind the scenes. >> what you see in michigan, behind the scenes as you say, are a number of grassroots groups that have names like americans for prosperity, michigan freedom fund and so forth. they are there to push lawmakers to pass right-to-work legislation, funded by some of the biggest interests on the conservative side. the koch brothers, we're talking about the prince family, eric prince used to run black w
it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us...
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issue for michigan workers. we have hard-working people in michigan. this is about giving workers choice. david: what does all this mean for the workers, for businesses and for the unions? joining us is michigan state senator patrick kulbec. thanks for coming in. i appreciate it. let's say what right to work laws are not. they not about outlawing unions. a lot of union workers have said, these right to work laws would outlaw, they're only about not forcing people to pay the unions if people don't want to, right? >> that's exactly it. collect tiff bargaining still stays in place. all we're talking about is giving workers a choice whether or not they want to financially compensate a union via union deals. david: why do you think the bills are necessary? >> for me we looked at the state of michigan and only state in the nation that lost population in the last census. i went off and did analysis and charted looking where everybody is going? when you look at the census data by almost three to one margin they're going
issue for michigan workers. we have hard-working people in michigan. this is about giving workers choice. david: what does all this mean for the workers, for businesses and for the unions? joining us is michigan state senator patrick kulbec. thanks for coming in. i appreciate it. let's say what right to work laws are not. they not about outlawing unions. a lot of union workers have said, these right to work laws would outlaw, they're only about not forcing people to pay the unions if people...
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the michigan governor snyder has vetoed that legislation. that will not go into law in the state of michigan. >> more now on the efforts to return to normal in newtown, connecticut, after the school shooting. we hear from the mothers of two sandy hook elementary school students, one survived the attack and the other did not go to that school on friday. and molly line says the moms are ready to get their kids back-to-school. >> exactly. they also have students that go to the other newtown schools that went to class today saying it was good to get the kids folk and both support the move to go to the new school in monroe for all the sandy hook elementary school. the third grader survived the massacre the he was at school and by the end of the week they can look at the new school in monroe. and karen's son was kept home from school on friday, he does not know he has lost friends only a bad man came to the school and he is one of many kindergarteners gathering to be together to do crafts and to have holiday fun before the season gets going, and t
the michigan governor snyder has vetoed that legislation. that will not go into law in the state of michigan. >> more now on the efforts to return to normal in newtown, connecticut, after the school shooting. we hear from the mothers of two sandy hook elementary school students, one survived the attack and the other did not go to that school on friday. and molly line says the moms are ready to get their kids back-to-school. >> exactly. they also have students that go to the other...
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factors say it will bring back jobs to michigan. critics claim it will lead to lower wages and fewer benefits. the governor, the republican governor just signed the bill about an hour ago making michigan the 24th state to be a right-to-work state in the u.s. mike tobin is on fox top story. is he live at the capitol in lansing. i just we just heard from the governor, right, mike? >> we did. we heard from the governor with a column of state troopers in riot gear surrounding his office building from. behind that column of protection he made his announcement that right-to-work is now a reality. here in michigan the cradle of organized labor and the governor explained why. >> fortrong reasons. first of all, worker choice. the freedom to choose and the concept of more and better jobs for our state. i think it was a good thing to sign this legislation and move forward. [shouting] >> the demonstrations did get tough. tent americans for prosperity was toppled by union demonstrators with people inside. there were no significant injuries. ther
factors say it will bring back jobs to michigan. critics claim it will lead to lower wages and fewer benefits. the governor, the republican governor just signed the bill about an hour ago making michigan the 24th state to be a right-to-work state in the u.s. mike tobin is on fox top story. is he live at the capitol in lansing. i just we just heard from the governor, right, mike? >> we did. we heard from the governor with a column of state troopers in riot gear surrounding his office...
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al qaeda. >> michigan is now the right to work state. >> this will attract more businesses to michigan. those businesses will need space. >> the owner of a michigan construction co., preceded by a union member who works at a general mots plant. michig govrick sande signed legislation -- rick snyder right to work legislation into law. the president said that what they're talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. a right to work at state, michigan? >> it is incredible. the republican legislature has passed this. there are two institutions that greeted the middle class in america with of the 10 states with the highest per capita income, although one is a non- right to work state. the 10 states with the highest medical coverage for the workers, eight of the 10 are not right to work states. where workers have the right to organize and unions, and those can be effective marketing, it raises the level of living for all americans. that, frankly,he fastest- growing states -- three of the 20 are right to work states. that puts that to rest. it is a chance to destroy unions, u
al qaeda. >> michigan is now the right to work state. >> this will attract more businesses to michigan. those businesses will need space. >> the owner of a michigan construction co., preceded by a union member who works at a general mots plant. michig govrick sande signed legislation -- rick snyder right to work legislation into law. the president said that what they're talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. a right to work at state, michigan? >>...
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we have a michigan republican controlled legislature right now. is that why you dove into this now while you could? >> tracy, thanks for joining us. this is a monmental night because it's a monumental win for michigan's workers. we kept the focus on the workers, their freedom to choose which organizions to join and what they don't want to join. we know there were clashes. know people demonstrated inappropriately, but good stories as well. clnup happening on the lawn by the demonstrators, but the point is throughout it all, we haveto keep focus on people going to work every day to literally build our state. tracy: right, because now it's easier to woo companies into michigan to bring obs; right? the states like south carolina, alabama, texas, have seen a boom in companies coming to work there because, well, it's easier, and it's cheaper african-american they don't have to -- and they don't ha to deal with the unions. >> two policy conversations that happened, and then there was the political. the democrats and union bosses focused on the political,
we have a michigan republican controlled legislature right now. is that why you dove into this now while you could? >> tracy, thanks for joining us. this is a monmental night because it's a monumental win for michigan's workers. we kept the focus on the workers, their freedom to choose which organizions to join and what they don't want to join. we know there were clashes. know people demonstrated inappropriately, but good stories as well. clnup happening on the lawn by the demonstrators,...
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wearing my hat in solidarity with the workers in michigan. and new sexy liberal celebrity guest. squee. chris, jim, and jacki will open the show. >> i have been told to wear something tight. >> stephanie: it will be a liberal gasm. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: aim right? >> they are going to go ape dump. >> stephanie: two huge surprise celebrity guests. >> i'm going to go ape dump meeting the people. >> stephanie: this is where you say is it the president? >> is it the president? >> stephanie: it is not the president. he doesn't have to worry about getting reelected. why not doing the tea bagging demonstration demonstration. >> what hilary? >> stephanie: it could be. oh looky here kimberly sent us a picture of her with the president. >> awe! >> stephanie: steph row c meet and grope. and yes, president obama does smell like cookies and freedom. that was one aisha tyler quotes. >> stephanie: yes. >> we laugh every single time. >> maybe she is doing a john boehner impression. >> stephanie: something like that. >> four years ago we witnessed the first inauguration of president obama. t
wearing my hat in solidarity with the workers in michigan. and new sexy liberal celebrity guest. squee. chris, jim, and jacki will open the show. >> i have been told to wear something tight. >> stephanie: it will be a liberal gasm. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: aim right? >> they are going to go ape dump. >> stephanie: two huge surprise celebrity guests. >> i'm going to go ape dump meeting the people. >> stephanie: this is where you say is it the...
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michigan sucks because your government hates workers and women. and again, i don't know with everything going on the fiscal cliff and all of that if people saw this. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] you talk about republicans rammed through this legislation in a lame duck session hours after they were introduce to both chambers, prohibiting private unions that nonunion employees pay fees. the senate imposed the same requirement on most public unions. no public input. it was a naked power play. orchestrated by the skeevy governor rick schneider who was riding the anti-union wave. it would have enshrined public employee collective baring aining. right to work essentially a way for corporate bastards to tell the workers to go [ bleep ] themselves. and not so fun fact, in fact, most of the [ bleep ] states for workers in the country a right to work because it makes it easier to reduce pay and benefits. i don't know if anybody knew what -- that this all happened so quickly. >> it did. in fact, it got filed and there is actually a law in michigan that s
michigan sucks because your government hates workers and women. and again, i don't know with everything going on the fiscal cliff and all of that if people saw this. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] you talk about republicans rammed through this legislation in a lame duck session hours after they were introduce to both chambers, prohibiting private unions that nonunion employees pay fees. the senate imposed the same requirement on most public unions. no public input. it was a naked...
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it's about those new right to work signs in michigan yesterday. the detroit free press is out with an editorial saying unions need to remind people who life was like without them. unions built the middle class and improved the standard of living for workers. do you think unions helped grow the middle class. go to facebook."news nation" to cast the vote. that does it for us. thanks for joining us. patty murray, former pennsylvania governor and the daily beast will all join the "news nation." the cycle is up next. you ever notice that some people just have a knack for giving the perfect gift? they put real thought into it. and find just... the right...thing. how do they do that? more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. pick up a ridgid jobmax multi-tool starter kit and get a free head attachment.
it's about those new right to work signs in michigan yesterday. the detroit free press is out with an editorial saying unions need to remind people who life was like without them. unions built the middle class and improved the standard of living for workers. do you think unions helped grow the middle class. go to facebook."news nation" to cast the vote. that does it for us. thanks for joining us. patty murray, former pennsylvania governor and the daily beast will all join the...
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michigan deemed itself a right-to-work state. with legal cllenges and recall efforts already in the air, what is next for the state? does this mark the beginning of the end for unions? let's ask james shirk, and chip merlin. chip i'm going with you first, everyone wants to know the legal ramifications, can the unions come back to appeal this. >> they can try to appeal, whether not they would win is anybody's guess, this equal protect argument, why did they carve out police officer and fire department, and everyone else is subject to this particular law that is not equal protect, the state of mhigan will sapphire fighters and police are important to our public safety, w is withholding union dues related to safety. >> that part you say could makes it way to a courtroom? >> it could. >> we've seen in ohio and wisconsin, they unkid the limb -- unkid the limited part of the law for collective bargains. >> in wisconsin, the law was thrown out but it was a different law from here in michigan, the michigan law and i first impression for
michigan deemed itself a right-to-work state. with legal cllenges and recall efforts already in the air, what is next for the state? does this mark the beginning of the end for unions? let's ask james shirk, and chip merlin. chip i'm going with you first, everyone wants to know the legal ramifications, can the unions come back to appeal this. >> they can try to appeal, whether not they would win is anybody's guess, this equal protect argument, why did they carve out police officer and...
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michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the minority or not. you basically all said that they are. therefore, it is the exception. when someone loses a political fight they protest. that is great thing about democracy. throwing into solyndra in there. here is where you are wrong. let me explain. >> this is the sin of obama economics it was supposed to go to shovel-ready jobs and men and women would partake in. it was handed to states so they could keep their pension funds flh and finance things like solyndra. even the president joked about there was no shovel-ready jobs. the labor m
michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the...
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. >> plus, fighting the poll gram in michigan. the plan to fight for democracy, the right wing media distracts with this. [bleep]. >> we'll tell you what's really happening and why they have it all wrong. you're watchi ining "politics nation" on msnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way
. >> plus, fighting the poll gram in michigan. the plan to fight for democracy, the right wing media distracts with this. [bleep]. >> we'll tell you what's really happening and why they have it all wrong. you're watchi ining "politics nation" on msnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example,...
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they claim they're helping the michigan economy. but michigan voters don't seem to agree. this is a number that is astounding. a new poll out shows that only 6% of voters surveyed want the legislature to make michigan a right-to-work state. union members say michigan republicans are simply hurting the economy. >>. >> tell me what democracy looks like! >> we're still here. we're still going to fight, even when the odds are stacked against us. >> i know that they're saying that right-to-work will make more jobs. but i don't think that. i believe that right-to-work is going to hurt the people out there. >> to take that away by this kind of right-wing attack by the republican administration is a disgrace to everything michigan has stood for decades and decades. >> so governor snyder, i find it interesting. if you sign this, how can you stand in front of the people and say this is what the people want with a number like that? this is how serious this issue is tonight. the entire democratic delegation called a special meeting with the michigan governor, senator debbie stabenow.
they claim they're helping the michigan economy. but michigan voters don't seem to agree. this is a number that is astounding. a new poll out shows that only 6% of voters surveyed want the legislature to make michigan a right-to-work state. union members say michigan republicans are simply hurting the economy. >>. >> tell me what democracy looks like! >> we're still here. we're still going to fight, even when the odds are stacked against us. >> i know that they're saying...
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michigan is primarily a rural state. this will be extremely difficult for people outside of southeastern michigan to get reproductive healthcare. so for us as nurses i think we'll have to do more education and outreach in the community. it's going to take a little time to figure out what strategies we're going to use. >> eliot: when we think of michigan, as with every state that there is diversity politically. in the right to work laws. >> right to work for less. >> eliot: exactly. do you think they provided cover for these heinous bills in the sense that so much attention was focused on them that these awful anti-choice bills were snuck in the dark of night. >> i don't think so because there is even more on the agenda. there is another emergency financial manager legislation which with legislation that governor snyder signed, it was the fourth bill that became law in his term. so less than two years ago. and our voters said, we don't want that. we just voted in november. yet on the floor we're taking up another bill on
michigan is primarily a rural state. this will be extremely difficult for people outside of southeastern michigan to get reproductive healthcare. so for us as nurses i think we'll have to do more education and outreach in the community. it's going to take a little time to figure out what strategies we're going to use. >> eliot: when we think of michigan, as with every state that there is diversity politically. in the right to work laws. >> right to work for less. >> eliot:...
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michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the minority or not. you basically all said that they are. therefore, it is the exception. when someone loses a political fight they protest. that is great thing about democracy. throwing into solyndra in there. here is where you are wrong. let me explain. >> this is the sin of obama economics it was supposed to go to shovel-ready jobs and men and women would partake in. it was handed to states so they could keep their pension funds flush and finance things like solyndra. even the president joked about there was no shovel-ready jobs. the labor
michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the...
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as he indicated, from the floor of the michigan house, the michigan democrats owned this because they called for blood, and since the union organized it, i think there's implications here. talking about a culture of organized crime. neil: well, that might be the next step. it's a bit of a leap, but, scott, it's your view right now this has hurt the union movement for awhile? that americans seeing this will look at this and say, well, you want people to have the right to be a part of you. the part of you i see on tv scares me. >> yeah, i think it does hurt the union movement, and that's very unfortunate. you know, my family, allupon members in southeast michigan, and what's unfortunate, once legislation goes into effect, they can still belong to a union, they have the freedom to do that. the unions going down the road hurts themselves and chance to attract members when the members will have that opportunity to choose whether to be in the union or not. neil: scott, greg, thank you, both. greg, keep us posted if you're getting the reward and get the information needed. as i often say on
as he indicated, from the floor of the michigan house, the michigan democrats owned this because they called for blood, and since the union organized it, i think there's implications here. talking about a culture of organized crime. neil: well, that might be the next step. it's a bit of a leap, but, scott, it's your view right now this has hurt the union movement for awhile? that americans seeing this will look at this and say, well, you want people to have the right to be a part of you. the...
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i'm fascinated, also, by the politics of this within michigan and when's happening in michigan because this law which, you know, the final vote in the legislature will be tomorrow and the expectation is the republican governor will sign it and changes the political culture and just the working culture of michigan. talk about the right to work laws used to be just south carolina, used to be the old confederacy. to have it spread to the rust belt is dramatic. the story is governor rick snyder, republican governor, hard to believe now but when he was elected he was celebrated by the national media as the anti-tea party republican. campaign as a nerd, not so much ideological. he wasn't going to do the kinds of things in michigan that john kay sich was doing in ohio and the turning point when labor in michigan tried to put a constitutional amendment -- put a constitutional amendment on the ballot out there he took as an affront and he snider in response is receptive to this legislation but i think what's interesting to watch here just quickly in the next day is this. a group of democratic c
i'm fascinated, also, by the politics of this within michigan and when's happening in michigan because this law which, you know, the final vote in the legislature will be tomorrow and the expectation is the republican governor will sign it and changes the political culture and just the working culture of michigan. talk about the right to work laws used to be just south carolina, used to be the old confederacy. to have it spread to the rust belt is dramatic. the story is governor rick snyder,...
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aspercreme. >>> we are back with steven moore and jackie calms, michigan in this sort of methodic, at least in terms of the political times right now t electric chur passes a right to work law in michigan, kind of at least one of the cradles of the union and it would mean that you wouldn't have to join a union, it would haven't to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> this just came out of the blue and the republicans just got their ducks in a row and they control the house and the senate and the governor ship in the senate, even though it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate. it's a big deal, it's a poison pill for the eurounions, they h right to work. a lot of new businesses when they're looking at building new factories or building new plants, they won't even consider states that are not right to work. so much of the growth in this country is in the right to work states. so i think economically, if it passes, it will be probably tuesday or wednesday when we get a final vote on this, i think it puts michigan, a state with a 10%, 11% un
aspercreme. >>> we are back with steven moore and jackie calms, michigan in this sort of methodic, at least in terms of the political times right now t electric chur passes a right to work law in michigan, kind of at least one of the cradles of the union and it would mean that you wouldn't have to join a union, it would haven't to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> this just came out of the blue and the republicans just got their ducks in a row and they control the house and...
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. >> the right to work is now enshrined in michigan. the right not to be forced to pay union dues is enshrined in michigan and 23 other states. i think that is a flat-out good thing. >> stephanie: unless you are a worker in michigan. >> but he thinks pearl harbor was a good idea. >> stephanie: we have no evidence here at the "stephanie miller show" that he thinks that. ann coulter. >> all of the people who want to work have left the state. not all of them there are a few left behind. but this mob cannot learn -- they would put their hand on a burning fire over and over again. they haven't noticed that by supporting these unions they have lost the car companies. they have lost jobs. >> what? >> stephanie: the car companies were saved and so were millions of jobs. what? by the way another hannity letter for me. steph racial outreach carried across the ballroom by a black man and smooched. i bet hannity can't make that claim. >> as far as we know. >> stephanie: [ inaudible ] on the five. >> what was once a membership of hard-working men an
. >> the right to work is now enshrined in michigan. the right not to be forced to pay union dues is enshrined in michigan and 23 other states. i think that is a flat-out good thing. >> stephanie: unless you are a worker in michigan. >> but he thinks pearl harbor was a good idea. >> stephanie: we have no evidence here at the "stephanie miller show" that he thinks that. ann coulter. >> all of the people who want to work have left the state. not all of them...
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. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>> developing news this hour. protesters rae main out of michigan's capitol building urging the governor not to sign right to work legislation and barring them from requiring workers to pay union dues as a condition of employment. the state house passed both bills today dealing with private and public sector unions. protesters were shouting "shame on you" from the gallery. michael moore said they're up to 15,000 people at the protest. state senate passed both bills last week and now michigan governor rick snyder says he'll sign them as early as tomorrow. nbc's ron mott is there. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey
. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>>...
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mernii in michigan. hi, merni. >> caller: hi steph. i'm going to take you off of speaker. >> stephanie: all right. thank you go ahead. >> caller: i wanted to make a follow-up to one of the things that you just brought up that these businesses like wal-mart and a lot of them don't want to pay more than basically minimum wage and then not even have people working a full -- you know a full workweek. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and basically they -- on top of that they are forcing these people to go and get additional services -- >> stephanie: yeah i just read the story corporate profits literally an at all-time high. >> caller: exactly. yeah, and it's just frustrating because then wal-mart and these other businesses are going to the government and saying they need help with trying to provide healthcare for their workers and other things and it's kind of like, you know if you don't want to provide welfare for the lower-class people, why would you think you are entitled to making all of these profits that you are? >> stephanie: yep. tha
mernii in michigan. hi, merni. >> caller: hi steph. i'm going to take you off of speaker. >> stephanie: all right. thank you go ahead. >> caller: i wanted to make a follow-up to one of the things that you just brought up that these businesses like wal-mart and a lot of them don't want to pay more than basically minimum wage and then not even have people working a full -- you know a full workweek. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and basically they -- on top of that...
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one of the paths was actually shown in michigan -- your own home state. so you have a very republican governor there and the nra was on the path to pass two really bad bills, one would eliminate background checks for concealed weapons, and the second would allow concealed carrying in places like day cares and schoolyards. and in a matter of weeks the nra had both of those initiatives completely reversed. we beat them on the first one, after the connecticut shootings the governor vetoed the bill and he should have. so the nra is on its heels at this point. >> jennifer: this weekend there were some successful gun buybacks in camden and san francisco and oakland. does your organization push for programs like those that -- where you don't have to worry about getting republican votes? >> we don't take a position on that kind of local policy. but new york city has gun buybacks and we found them to be one good tool. but in new york city we are the safest big city in the country, and have relatively few murders per capita and one reason is we have some of the str
one of the paths was actually shown in michigan -- your own home state. so you have a very republican governor there and the nra was on the path to pass two really bad bills, one would eliminate background checks for concealed weapons, and the second would allow concealed carrying in places like day cares and schoolyards. and in a matter of weeks the nra had both of those initiatives completely reversed. we beat them on the first one, after the connecticut shootings the governor vetoed the bill...
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the michigan senate just followed the statehouse and has now passed a bill to make michigan a right-to-work state. the vote was 22-10-16, if i have that right. just minutes ago on this program, governor reiick snyder said he would sign the bill. now that it's passed, looks like it's going to happen. imagine that. the union workers' paradise going right to work. >>> residents of the los angeles area seniors complex are up in arms over the owner's order to take down the christmas tree because they're religious symbols. the company's owned the complex for four years and won't comment about the order. people who live there a while say this has never happened before. we say, drop the ban and light up that tree and the minoras. let there be no secular tyranny. by the way, they are christmas trees. don't forget that. >>> for a moment, forget about the fiscal cliff. the u.s. is already in a recession and has been since july, according to my next guest. here now with details on this recession call is lakshman achuthan, the distinguished co-founder and chief operating officer of the economic cycle re
the michigan senate just followed the statehouse and has now passed a bill to make michigan a right-to-work state. the vote was 22-10-16, if i have that right. just minutes ago on this program, governor reiick snyder said he would sign the bill. now that it's passed, looks like it's going to happen. imagine that. the union workers' paradise going right to work. >>> residents of the los angeles area seniors complex are up in arms over the owner's order to take down the christmas tree...
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and filmmaker from michigan, michigan native michael moore is here with reaction to governor snyder's move and how he plans to fight back. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to "the ed >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. i tell you, it's a full-time job wading through the lies op michigan's right to work law. here's governor rick snyder offering one of the biggest reasons for supporting the law. >> indiana's had a strong experience. they've done similar legislation back in february. they've seen thousands of jobs come to indiana. and those jobs could also come to michigan. >> and when you look at indiana and see what they've achieved since february when they did similar legislation, they've gotten thousands of jobs coming to indiana because of this issue. >> all you have to do is look to indiana. and as soon as they did this legislation, thousands of jobs have come to indiana since that time frame. >> we're losing a major competitive advantage. indiana has become a right to work state. and i've looked at their pipeline. they've significantly increased the number
and filmmaker from michigan, michigan native michael moore is here with reaction to governor snyder's move and how he plans to fight back. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to "the ed >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. i tell you, it's a full-time job wading through the lies op michigan's right to work law. here's governor rick snyder offering one of the biggest reasons for supporting the law. >> indiana's had a strong experience....
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how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay competitive. >> astonishing this is all happening in the heart of union land, historically. i will add to charles, because it's the lightning round that ohio is next possibility. harder go there. it would have to be done by ballot initiative, weakening the union. >> john: five seconds or less. >> i agree with everything they said and the key is eliminating the dues check off on the public sector union of michigan because that is where the democratic party gets its money. >> john: senate voted for. see where that goes. thank you all. that is it for the panel. stay tuned t
how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay...
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right now, the legislature passes a right to work law in michigan. kind of, at least one of the cradles of union -- it would mean that you would not have to join a union. you would not have to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> it just came out of the blue and under the radar screen. republicans got their ducks together, they control the house, senate, and the governorship, even though it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate, it's a big deal, a poiseen pill for the unions, they hate right to work. i think it's a smart move economically, a lot of new businesses, when looking at building new factories or plans, they will not even consider states that are right to work. so much of the growth in this country is in the right to work states. i think if it passes, and it will probably be tuesday or wednesday when we get a final vote on this, i think it puts michigan with a 10% or 11% unemployment rate, back on the map. >> and one of the highest union states in the country, did a lot to help reelect presiden
right now, the legislature passes a right to work law in michigan. kind of, at least one of the cradles of union -- it would mean that you would not have to join a union. you would not have to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> it just came out of the blue and under the radar screen. republicans got their ducks together, they control the house, senate, and the governorship, even though it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate, it's a big...
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"michigan passes what you make of this? guest: it is a blow to working people all across the country. when you look at where unions have been successful, wages are higher. unions are responsible for lifting the american people into the middle class. through collective bargaining, sustaining and making sure people are in a decent wage. i think the president said it well. it's not an opportunity -- it is an opportunity for people to earn less when you have legislation like this. interesting how michigan moved along this line. i think there will be a backlash. once people think this through, they will fundamentally begin to realize it is important. host: pennsylvania, democratic line, joe. you are on with congressman john larson. caller: i agree with what the congressman started off saying. not talking about the fiscal cliff but about jobs. this is what you don't hear on any of the major media, especially fox. just the fiscal cliff all day long. and don't raise taxes on the wealthy or corporations. the corporations in this cou
"michigan passes what you make of this? guest: it is a blow to working people all across the country. when you look at where unions have been successful, wages are higher. unions are responsible for lifting the american people into the middle class. through collective bargaining, sustaining and making sure people are in a decent wage. i think the president said it well. it's not an opportunity -- it is an opportunity for people to earn less when you have legislation like this. interesting...
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and in michigan. is there in your meetings, is there a strategy for coming back? are these setbacks seen as reversible? >> well, ezra, i see it as a reawake inning of people. dispiriting because the attacks have been so relentless. it's a attacks on workers, on planned parenthood, on immigrants. it's all connected in our minds. so we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement that we're going to build power in the workplace, build power at the ballot box, build power in the communities. and make it crystal clear that snyder can't get away with this by building a more powerful worker community movement in the state of michigan and rebuilding a middle class, not just in michigan, but all across this country. >> supporters of these laws, i don't really like to call them right-to-work laws, i think it's just framing. but support sayers why should you, if you have been hired by an employer, gm maybe, why should you have to pay to be represented by a union that you didn't vote for and maybe that
and in michigan. is there in your meetings, is there a strategy for coming back? are these setbacks seen as reversible? >> well, ezra, i see it as a reawake inning of people. dispiriting because the attacks have been so relentless. it's a attacks on workers, on planned parenthood, on immigrants. it's all connected in our minds. so we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement that we're going to build power in the workplace, build power at the ballot box, build power in the...